
The
“War on Christmas” may be nothing but empty right-wing hype,
but that hasn’t stopped Über-Christian James Dobson from ramping
up his three-year-old “Christmas Project,” organizing more
than 800 lawyers to defend the baby Jesus. We called to pester
his Alliance Defense Fund staff.
Alliance
Defense Fund: Thank you for waiting. How may I direct
your call?
BEAST:
Uh yes, this is Ian Murphy.
ADF:
Hi Ian, this is Liz.
BEAST:
Hi Liz. Sorry I had to call you back but, uh, you know, it’s
illegal to drive and talk in New York.
ADF:
Okay, no that’s fine. I’d rather have you park somewhere than
get in an accident. So what can I help you with today? Actually
Ian, can I ask you a few questions, um, before we start? Um,
you live in New York?
BEAST:
Yes.
ADF:
Okay, and, um, how did you hear about ADF?
BEAST:
Well, after I had this incident with my neighbor, I brought
it up with the neighbor on the other side, and he told me
about Mr. Dobson’s organization and the great things you people
were doing.
ADF:
Okay, all right, great. Um, okay, and what is the situation
that you’re dealing with?
BEAST:
Well first of all, praise Jesus
ADF:
Okay. Yes.
BEAST:
Second of all, all right, this neighbor. I don’t know where
he’s from; I don’t know if he’s foreign; I don’t know what
but, you know, we see him from time to time, and I say merry
Christmas and he kinda gives me the slanty eyes.
ADF:
Uh huh.
BEAST:
Yeah, so I was wondering what I should do about that in the
war on Christmas. Should I – is it ok to launch a preemptive
strike, so to speak?
ADF:
Well is he – has he done anything, or said anything about
you saying “merry Christmas?”
BEAST:
Well, you know, he doesn’t speak – his English is sort of
broken. I can’t understand; he mumbles.
ADF:
Okay.
BEAST:
But it’s, you know, a hostile mumble.
ADF:
Uh – okay.
BEAST:
And he has some sort of decoration – I don’t know what they
are, they’re like candles.
ADF:
Okay.
BEAST:
They’re taking the Christ out of Christmas.
ADF:
Right, um, Ian, for this sort of situation, basically what
I would probably suggest is, um, you know, whatever you’re
doing – I know you want to, you know, keep Christ in Christmas,
so we would suggest doing everything you can in your community
to make it known that it’s still about Christmas. So, I don’t
know if you have decorations up at your house –
BEAST:
Well, we’re making a 50-foot – well, we hope to make it a
50-foot ice sculpture Jesus.
ADF:
An ice sculpture of Jesus?
BEAST:
Yeah.
ADF:
And is that going to be in your front yard?
BEAST:
Yes sir…ma’am, excuse me.
ADF:
It’s okay.
BEAST:
Praise Jesus. And you know, we’re only halfway done. We’re
about up to the belly button. And, um, you know, I can tell
this guy’s already looking at it like he’s gonna rip it down.
ADF:
Okay. Well at this point, Ian, we – because we are an organization
that intervenes and litigates for specific legal incidences,
since there is nothing – you’re not involved in a legal incident
right now – there’s not a lot that we can do – um…
BEAST:
Well, the thing is uh, you know, we’re making the ice sculpture,
so I got the hose out, and were rolling the snow and uh, you
know the guy gives me the shifty eyes, and I just say, “Hey,
that’s my Jesus.”
ADF:
Right.
BEAST:
That he’s shifting his eyes at.
ADF:
Right.
BEAST:
So I sprayed the water on his front steps and he fell.
ADF:
And he fell?
BEAST:
Yeah. Now he’s suing me, and that’s why I’m calling you.
ADF:
Okay, so he’s suing you…
BEAST:
Because he’s taking the Christ out of Christmas.
ADF:
Okay, but basically he’s suing you because of the water incident
and for his injury, correct?
BEAST:
Yeah.
ADF:
Okay, um.
BEAST:
But it all stems from this, uh, religious confrontation.
ADF:
Right. No, I understand that, and basically Ian, you know,
we litigate and we were set up by Dr. Dobson and other founders
to only litigate cases dealing with religious liberty issues
and sanctity of life issues. Now, since he hasn’t taken action
against your freedom of religion, there’s nothing that we
can do in terms of the law to litigate against him
BEAST:
Well, one of the legs fell off the Jesus.
ADF:
Did he do that?
BEAST:
There’s rumors.
ADF:
Okay, did you call the police about that?
BEAST:
Uh, no I didn’t.
ADF:
Ok, I would suggest – I would first tell you to call your
local authorities if he was on your property or he had destroyed
something on your property. Because we – it’s not a first
amendment issue, so you know what I mean, we can’t litigate
and use our resources for something, like, that is not a first
amendment issue. So, and I know this whole thing stems from
the war on Christmas, but if there’s no specific religious
liberty right that has been violated according to the constitution,
then we can’t get involved. So if, I mean, like lets say your
child –
BEAST:
So you’re telling me… I started a, you know, preemptive war
here, and you’re not going to help me out?
ADF:
Well, sir, because it doesn’t fall within our scope.
BEAST:
[sigh of disappointment] I was –
ADF:
And we support – I mean, whatever you do, you know, in the
name of the lord that is within the limits of, you know, biblical
limits. And you…
BEAST:
Like smiting.
ADF:
Like smiting?
BEAST:
Yeah… figuratively, of course. Figurative smiting.
ADF:
However you choose to display Christ at your home, and you
know, keep Christ in Christmas, we would encourage that. Any
other issues – if it’s not a first amendment issue we can’t
help with [sic]. Because that’s how our organization was set
up. Unfortunately we aren’t the organization that can assist
in this situation, that you’re dealing with.
BEAST:
Hmm.
ADF:
But we are, you know, we are supportive of you in the war
on Christmas and we’re doing everything we can in other, you
know, in other situations to help this issue.
BEAST:
Okay, well, I have a feeling there’s going to be plenty more
battles in the neighborhood
ADF:
All right.
BEAST:
And if my rights are abridged I will certainly call back.
ADF:
Okay Ian.
BEAST:
Thank you for your time.
ADF:
Thank you.
BEAST:
Bye.
ADF:
Bye bye.